the tax increases and so forth. conditions in europe are not improving because tear not dealing with the fundamental -- they're not dealing with the fundamental structural problems, the fact that the southern countrie had to borrow to finance importing, germany will have to have a trade deficit, or there's no going home again. in china they cannot grow forever on the basis of exporting to the americans and not buying from the americans, because then they smother their customers. these imbalances haven't been fixed so, yes, the danger is real, and it's grave. jenna: charlie, let's talk about the ways to fix i. peter was mentioning the different types of economies at play in europe, but one of the things mentioned overall a couple years ago everyone was saying you've got to fix their debt and deficit, so people cut spending, and that became part of the problem because it slowed down the economy. >> well -- jenna: there's a little bit of you're darned if you do, you're darned if you don't. >> the imf is not a great exa